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cactuswatcher ([personal profile] cactuswatcher) wrote2017-11-11 05:20 am

Huh?

Bill Gates buys big chunk of land some 25000 acres about 30 miles west of here to build a new high tech city for 80,000 residents to be called Belmont. High tech manufacturing, lots of tech desk jobs, self-contained, green, streets with mostly driverless cars, and in general, pie-in-the-sky a la mode.

You have to understand that the Arizona desert is littered with big tracts of land you'd call ghost towns except there was never any town there. Roads graded in the dirt, sometimes paved, sometimes even with street signs, but nary a building to be seen. Some times they were real estate scams that just tried to sell enough lots to make a profit without worrying about how someone might actually live out in the middle of nowhere. Sometimes it was an honest, but not very well informed attempt to actually build a community. Gates' Belmont has two major things going for it that a lot of the ghost developments didn't, namely access to power (both a nuclear power plant and lots of sun for future solar power) and water (from a major canal from the Colorado River leading into west Phoenix). But it's missing a couple important things to get it started, namely a major employer or three who want to build new campuses out in the desert and transportation other than one existing highway which is already overloaded between here and downtown. (The Phoenix airport is about 20 miles east of me beyond downtown on that overloaded highway. The railroad is close by here, but again about 30 miles of rough country east of Belmont). Add to that the state's total disinterest in providing funding for education, and Bill's company is going to have some heavy sales chores ahead of them to get this project more than dirt roads scraped in the desert.

I don't say it can't be done, but building in existing communities with things like surface streets, sewer and flood control systems all ready in place, would seem to make a lot more sense to a company interested in Arizona. There is plenty of open space to build your high tech, green, campus within 30 miles of the airport on this side of the White Tank Mountains. Why isolate yourself on the backside of the mountains other than to be trendy?
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[personal profile] shadowkat 2017-11-11 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I was talking to an engineer this week about the over-development being done in NYC at the moment. And he voiced some of the same concerns/issues that you have...1) no funding for education, 2) no funding towards transportation, and 3) no funding towards healthcare, and 3) no funding towards infrastructure...just constructing these buildings and communities. He works for a developer -- and he said that part of the reason they can do all these developments is the tax breaks. Because, you know, it provides jobs.

Made me want to fire the city planners.

It is sort of like reading a science-fiction or fantasy novel, where the writer has forgotten a few key aspects of building the world, so as a result the plot just does not work. Okay, that may not be the best of analogies.

But I feel as if there is a lot of development happening in this country, and a lot of money being thrown about, but not a lot of thought put into it or follow-through. As a result, in places like NY, the city is getting insanely crowded, transportation is breaking down, and schools are struggling to find a foot-hold.

Instead of giving these crazy developers tax breaks (which by the way may be part of the reason Gates is doing it -- the country is giving real estate developers tax breaks), they should be finding ways to fund education, transportation, infrastructure, and further develop existing communities that need it. (Hopefully by not gentrifying them to such an extent that those currently living in them can no longer afford it.)
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[personal profile] shadowkat 2017-11-12 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, I'm really hoping NYC loses the Amazon bid. We've become a country that is "consumptive" and "financially focused" often to the exclusion of all else. It's almost as if it's become all about money. How much you make, and how much you have, and how many things you can buy. And the media is inundating us with gadgets, food, toys, houses, vacations, etc that we should want and need to buy now.

Heaven forbid you pay any taxes -- because then you'd have less money to buy things and have your dream life. Everyone wants a tax break or loop-hole. We're all afraid of paying more taxes.

I call it capitalism gone insane.