No half measures

[cactuswatcher]

First off, from this morning's entertainment column by local reporter Scott Craven in the Arizona Republic, in a story about TV show fads that have died and should soon die:

"Current Icon that will never go bad -The undead (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel) Here's another that will stand the test of time. Pop culture will always have room for bloodsucking fiends, even those who may not be undead."


It occured to me when I woke up this morning that Illyria might be what happens when you pump too much demon essence into a slayer. The ancients offered Buffy more power in season seven. Its easy to understand that this is where that could lead to; the girl becomes more and more lost in the demon.

The episode had at least one really sad continuity flub. Back in the good old days W&H was 'only a little higher than vampires.' Um Illyria, honey, you're been dead millions of years. There were no humans back then, and according to cannon, vampires are a human-demon hybrid.. Yeah, the ultimate 'sire' may have been around back then, but in its pure form, not as 'vampires.'

So what's the story with Illyria now? Is she really going to play nice, or is she just going to use Wes like Evil Cordy used Connor to get her way in a new world? The season seems to be about bad choices, so for now I'd have to guess the latter. Wes is unwittingly going to replace the high priest he killed?. Could be. He certainly seems to have acquired a violent streak that Illyria might find useful.

Comments

[masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com]

Illyria had heard of humans. They must have existed when she was alive before. According to the story of the Old Ones (which Illyria is), they were driven into the demon dimensions when humans and the mortal animals came (The Harvest).

Now, the problem might be that according to the story, the last demon to leave our plane of existence bit a human and mixed their blood and became the first vampire, and Illyria might not have been around to witness that.

But Illyria is one of the Old Ones who wasn't driven away. Who remained on Earth. Of course, the legend goes that Illyria was killed by other demons (in some kind of demon coup) and may not have been alive to witness the rest of the demons being driven into the demon dimensions.

But dead isn't dead, especially for the Old Ones (noted in last week's ep). Maybe she has some knowledge gained after her death, OR, maybe she knows what Fred knows.

[cactuswatcher.livejournal.com]

The timing is still dead wrong. Illyria is described from the begining as being from millions of years ago. Unless Joss is going to take the time to tell us how he's rewritten evolution, there were no humans then period! She couldn't know about humans from her original days. That's another gaff, unless you assume she's getting info from Fred's memories, as you mention. The scene where she realizes her world is gone, just emphasizes it all. Humans weren't around when her fellow old ones put her 'in storage.' She was dead long before the demons began to decline on this plane, hence she didn't know or even imagine her army would be all gone when she returned. Thus, any of her knowledge of the modern situation must be Fred's, and that knowledge is incomplete.

[masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com]

Well, that's how I'm going to have to wank it. It's from Fred's knowledge. 'Cause humans millions of years ago? Hairy knuckles dragging the ground.