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cactuswatcher ([personal profile] cactuswatcher) wrote2005-10-01 04:20 pm

Serenity... just terrible!

Just terrible that more movies aren't as good.
When I did all that griping for years at Joss, I just wanted him to get it right. Well he really did, and he can do it again when the inspiration hits him.

Were you all as shocked as I was when Wash got staked? Staked!
I didn't think the operative would be much different than Jubal Early of Objects in Space, but I was pleasantly surprised there was a subtle difference.
Summer Glau was terrific, and so were her stunt women. It's one thing for a ballerina to be so graceful, but for the stunt women to pick it up and work with it was really fine.
The saddest part for me was when Book died. I kind of expected it. But still.
Both Joss and the network were right about Mal. The Mal of Serenity is a better character than the one in Firefly, and he probably is too dark for a broadcast TV series.
Gina and Jewel looked so great. And good heavens, Marina looked younger!
Alas poor Wash! He was a man of infinite jest. Too bad he was staked or he could come back as a vampire! (Just kidding, Joss)


P.S. Many thanks to my companion (oops, thats a naughty word, now, isn't it?) gracious friend for the fine afternoon!

I still haven't seen it, darn

[identity profile] hankat.livejournal.com 2005-10-01 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, Jubal was obviously crazy, where the Operative is a believer in what he has done for a better world. Jubal was about gain, the Operative for something he doesn't even feel he will be alive for.

I was sad about Book and Wash. I thought Book could have had a great back-story.

Rufus

Re: I still haven't seen it, darn

[identity profile] cactuswatcher.livejournal.com 2005-10-02 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I should have remembered you'd be reading all the spoilers!

Re: I still haven't seen it, darn

[identity profile] hankat.livejournal.com 2005-10-02 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Actually I was casually avoiding the spoilers and got what I know from the companion book to the movie I got a week or so ago. I figured if I couldn't see the movie til Mr. Rufus got back I'd read the screenplay and interviews and look at pics from an authorized source.

Rufus

Re: I still haven't seen it, darn

[identity profile] bhadrasvapna.livejournal.com 2005-10-02 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't it a great book? I love it and have it at my side most of the day.

Thing is, the script isn't completely right. It is the shooting script. I'll have to remember what scenes were cut. Some of the dialogue is different as well.

[identity profile] soulfulspike80.livejournal.com 2005-10-02 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
P.S. Many thanks to my companion (oops, thats a naughty word, now, isn't it?) gracious friend for the fine afternoon!

LOL!! It was a fun afternoon. Too bad there aren't more ME-related movies out there to see, isn't it?

BTW, when I got home I switched my pig calendar from September to October (I always have a pig calendar) and this month it's a "Hampire"!!!!! ;-)

[identity profile] darbyunlimited.livejournal.com 2005-10-02 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I hadn't made the stake connection. I guess he won't be miraculously returning.

The vast majority of the stunts actually were Summer, which is why they weren't working to hide her face. The coordinators also did an excellent job of matching River's fighting style to Summer's balletic grace.

I think Book could die because this movie was essentially his backstory. The Operative could have been the pre-Shepherd.

And Jubal was a good lead-in to the Operative, in that it's fascinating to contemplate both their similarities and differences. For one, Jubal thought of himself as a man driven to do bad things while the Operative realizes (or believes) that he is a bad man working for a greater purpose. I'm a little surprised that this superior movie villain isn't getting significant discussion in the reviews.

[identity profile] cactuswatcher.livejournal.com 2005-10-02 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
The vast majority of the stunts actually were Summer, which is why they weren't working to hide her face

During the movie as I was noticing what you just pointed out, I noticed that during the big Reaver fight scene they were hiding her face. Much like SMG, Summer can made a good start to a move that someone else completes for her.

The only thing I can say about lack of discussion of the Operative is that most of us are familiar with 'true believers.' He really isn't anything new or different other than his change of heart and his recognition that he's not part of the perfection he's striving for. In that second part he's very like a group of "programmed" soldiers in a particular Star Trek DS9 ep, who realized when the war was over, they were too dangerous to live in the society, they'd fought for. It was a subtle change on the common story of others thinking that of soldiers coming back from war.