It's interesting - I actually met a woman who loved Menace and hated Attack of Clones. She liked the creatures and underwater world and play in the first one. Personally? I disliked Menace for the reasons you state above and think Lucas was attempting, albeit poorly, to make a kids movie sort of similar to what the first Star Wars movie was. Fun, not too deep, not too scary. Didn't work for me - but not a kid.
Clones was far more interesting - because of the intricate political manipulations. Palpatine masterfully hoodwinks the Jedi, Amalda, and everyone else into doing what he wants and sets both his teams against one another. If you haven't seen it yet - I suggest renting the animated Clone Wars - which admist a lot of battle scenes, also continues to show how Palpatine continues to play both ends against the middle - ie. Count Dooku against Yoda. Pushing Yoda and Obi-Wan to make Anakin a Jedi Knight before he's completed his training and pushing Dooku to go after Anakin. Watching AoC followed by Clone Wars and knowing what happens in Star Wars, one begins to realize that the hero's journey Lucas was interested in was not Luke's, but Darth Vader. HE was interested in the fall of the hero and the possible redemption. AoC and Clone Wars work brilliantly together. I agree...forgetting Phantom Menace is a good thing. I sort of shelve it as the kid movie that Lucas wanted to make.
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Date: 2005-04-02 04:48 pm (UTC)above and think Lucas was attempting, albeit poorly, to make a kids movie sort of similar to what the first Star Wars movie was. Fun, not too deep, not too scary. Didn't work for me - but not a kid.
Clones was far more interesting - because of the intricate political manipulations. Palpatine masterfully hoodwinks the Jedi, Amalda, and everyone else into doing what he wants and sets both his teams against one another. If you haven't seen it yet - I suggest renting the animated Clone Wars - which admist a lot of battle scenes, also continues to show how Palpatine continues to play both ends against the middle - ie. Count Dooku against Yoda. Pushing Yoda and Obi-Wan to make Anakin a Jedi Knight before he's completed his training and pushing Dooku to go after Anakin.
Watching AoC followed by Clone Wars and knowing what happens in Star Wars,
one begins to realize that the hero's journey Lucas was interested in was not Luke's, but Darth Vader. HE was interested in the fall of the hero and the possible redemption. AoC and Clone Wars work brilliantly together.
I agree...forgetting Phantom Menace is a good thing. I sort of shelve it as the kid movie that Lucas wanted to make.