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I watched both the first episode of Moonlight and the unaired pilot of Dollhouse for the first time in the last 18 hours.
I can't understand why a lot of people didn't like Moonlight. Okay, it was derivative and not Joss. But otherwise it's quite entertaining. Kind of an Angel for grownups without Joss' hangups. The two leads are likable, the hero tough, but emotionally vulnerable, the heroine no superhero, but no fainting Nelly in a diaphanous gown waiting around to be rescued all the time either. The episodes don't all end with happy, sugar-plum-fairy endings. The villains were sufficiently nefarious and mysterious. If the lathe-turned stakes looked a bit silly to those of us Buffy veterans, the fact that stakes *didn't kill* Moonlight vampires, did make for some interesting action. I recommend that if you never saw Moonlight, take a look at the DVDs. You might be surprised.
Dollhouse Pilot Spoiler Alert It is a little difficult to say anything to nice about what Joss' intentions with the pilot may have been. I don't understand how he thought it could possibly air as a pilot on network TV. It makes an episode of SCC look like Little House on the Prairie. Ignoring that, why in the hell give away that much at the beginning when you had no intention of continuing the series in that time frame? Frankly, it's a bit stupid. Sorry Joss, I got frustrated with the series as it was shown. I'd have become frustrated with it a heck of a lot faster if I'd seen the original pilot first instead of now. Watching some of the cut scenes you have to wonder what Joss was thinking at all. Looks like he had enough material for a three hour pilot. Or enough material that if he could con FOX into showing some of the pilot, he could splice in an entire plot line to replace all the stuff they were not going to approve of short of hell freezing over. The whole pilot looks like and plays out like one of the Resident Evil movies, and that's not exactly a good thing. FOX was right this time. The series is better off without the original pilot being shown first. It might have been a decent series finale, might have been acceptable to the network as such. But since it's been released now before the second season starts, I have to see it as a tantrum from a very spoiled Mr. Whedon.
ETA Thanks to Shadowkat I've learned, what I saw was not the pilot at all. Just some confusion between me and the packaging. I'm still not convinced it's not a tantrum, but possibly it's a much more understandable one.
I can't understand why a lot of people didn't like Moonlight. Okay, it was derivative and not Joss. But otherwise it's quite entertaining. Kind of an Angel for grownups without Joss' hangups. The two leads are likable, the hero tough, but emotionally vulnerable, the heroine no superhero, but no fainting Nelly in a diaphanous gown waiting around to be rescued all the time either. The episodes don't all end with happy, sugar-plum-fairy endings. The villains were sufficiently nefarious and mysterious. If the lathe-turned stakes looked a bit silly to those of us Buffy veterans, the fact that stakes *didn't kill* Moonlight vampires, did make for some interesting action. I recommend that if you never saw Moonlight, take a look at the DVDs. You might be surprised.
Dollhouse Pilot Spoiler Alert It is a little difficult to say anything to nice about what Joss' intentions with the pilot may have been. I don't understand how he thought it could possibly air as a pilot on network TV. It makes an episode of SCC look like Little House on the Prairie. Ignoring that, why in the hell give away that much at the beginning when you had no intention of continuing the series in that time frame? Frankly, it's a bit stupid. Sorry Joss, I got frustrated with the series as it was shown. I'd have become frustrated with it a heck of a lot faster if I'd seen the original pilot first instead of now. Watching some of the cut scenes you have to wonder what Joss was thinking at all. Looks like he had enough material for a three hour pilot. Or enough material that if he could con FOX into showing some of the pilot, he could splice in an entire plot line to replace all the stuff they were not going to approve of short of hell freezing over. The whole pilot looks like and plays out like one of the Resident Evil movies, and that's not exactly a good thing. FOX was right this time. The series is better off without the original pilot being shown first. It might have been a decent series finale, might have been acceptable to the network as such. But since it's been released now before the second season starts, I have to see it as a tantrum from a very spoiled Mr. Whedon.
ETA Thanks to Shadowkat I've learned, what I saw was not the pilot at all. Just some confusion between me and the packaging. I'm still not convinced it's not a tantrum, but possibly it's a much more understandable one.
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