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Castle last night was a rerun so I don't feel too worried about spoiling anyone. It was centered around a sci-fi convention, and specifically an old TV show that was sort of a cross between Galaxy Quest and the reboot of Star Trek. It was made abundantly clear that though the show in question only ran for half a season a) it was not Firefly and b) it did have a loyal following. Castle thought the show was dreck. So naturally once he started running it down, we discover that Becket was a geeky fan of the show.
I can't say I actually heard much from people who didn't like Buffy, but no doubt there were a lot of them. I'm the kind of fan who doesn't care for fan conventions. But I don't have any problem with those who do like them. I haven't had the desire to wear the costume of a TV character since I was ten or eleven, but I have no problem with grownups wanting a costume party themed on their favorite show. I don't care for autographs. I know people who will pay good money and stand in line to get one. I know people who'd happily stand in line for an autograph, but would never consider spending a dime on one. We're all fans in different ways, and we behave differently. Some of you will remember the sing-along with OMWF at Lake Tahoe.![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
dlgood didn't want any part of it. The rest of us at least watched and most of us tried to sing. A disturbing moment was when Anya and Xander's duet came on. The guys were all happy to perform it as a duet, but at least a few of the ladies were upset we weren't singing the girl's part. It's not like a) we weren't singing along with Tara a few minutes earlier, or b) we were making a fuss because women wanted to sing Xander's part. Who was right? Those who wanted a nice duet or those who wanted everyone to sing together. Was anyone wrong, is the better question.
All of which is a long winded way to get around to a new show coming to cable that has been fairly widely advertised, Defiance. I can see myself as a teenager being interested in it. but even if I had cable TV I think I'd avoid it. It seems like another Mad Max rip-off; post-apocalyptic Earth, this time with aliens, lots of people running around armed to the teeth, but with very little in the way of agriculture to keep them all alive. Can't say I mind aliens that look generally like humans, but interbreeding stretches far beyond my limits of belief. The story is set in what once was St. Louis. The premise is that, due to unfortunate events, an alien terraforming mechanism tore the Earth up leaving humans and aliens all mixed together in groups fighting bad guys of all races and mutants (hey, there have to be mutants and/or zombies, right?) for survival. As implied earlier, I think teenage boys will go for it if anyone. Defiance comes out in video game form today; I think the TV show starts next week. I've seen footage of a beta version of the game on youtube. The game seems like a generic shoot-em-up with races drawn from the show. The women one can play as in the game are appropriately sexy looking and the playable men, mostly look like steriod-poisoned body-builders. The catch with this game is that you must be on-line to play which gives all kinds of opportunities for the producers to make money off it. Who knows? Defiance may become the next big fandom.
I can't say I actually heard much from people who didn't like Buffy, but no doubt there were a lot of them. I'm the kind of fan who doesn't care for fan conventions. But I don't have any problem with those who do like them. I haven't had the desire to wear the costume of a TV character since I was ten or eleven, but I have no problem with grownups wanting a costume party themed on their favorite show. I don't care for autographs. I know people who will pay good money and stand in line to get one. I know people who'd happily stand in line for an autograph, but would never consider spending a dime on one. We're all fans in different ways, and we behave differently. Some of you will remember the sing-along with OMWF at Lake Tahoe.
dlgood didn't want any part of it. The rest of us at least watched and most of us tried to sing. A disturbing moment was when Anya and Xander's duet came on. The guys were all happy to perform it as a duet, but at least a few of the ladies were upset we weren't singing the girl's part. It's not like a) we weren't singing along with Tara a few minutes earlier, or b) we were making a fuss because women wanted to sing Xander's part. Who was right? Those who wanted a nice duet or those who wanted everyone to sing together. Was anyone wrong, is the better question.All of which is a long winded way to get around to a new show coming to cable that has been fairly widely advertised, Defiance. I can see myself as a teenager being interested in it. but even if I had cable TV I think I'd avoid it. It seems like another Mad Max rip-off; post-apocalyptic Earth, this time with aliens, lots of people running around armed to the teeth, but with very little in the way of agriculture to keep them all alive. Can't say I mind aliens that look generally like humans, but interbreeding stretches far beyond my limits of belief. The story is set in what once was St. Louis. The premise is that, due to unfortunate events, an alien terraforming mechanism tore the Earth up leaving humans and aliens all mixed together in groups fighting bad guys of all races and mutants (hey, there have to be mutants and/or zombies, right?) for survival. As implied earlier, I think teenage boys will go for it if anyone. Defiance comes out in video game form today; I think the TV show starts next week. I've seen footage of a beta version of the game on youtube. The game seems like a generic shoot-em-up with races drawn from the show. The women one can play as in the game are appropriately sexy looking and the playable men, mostly look like steriod-poisoned body-builders. The catch with this game is that you must be on-line to play which gives all kinds of opportunities for the producers to make money off it. Who knows? Defiance may become the next big fandom.
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Oh, I have. Count yourself as lucky. "How can you like a campy tv show like that?" or "You realize it was marketed to tween girls, right?" (sigh).
I'm the kind of fan who doesn't care for fan conventions. But I don't have any problem with those who do like them. I haven't had the desire to wear the costume of a TV character since I was ten or eleven, but I have no problem with grownups wanting a costume party themed on their favorite show. I don't care for autographs. I know people who will pay good money and stand in line to get one. I know people who'd happily stand in line for an autograph, but would never consider spending a dime on one.
Similar in this way. I like to write meta, analyze (okay over-analyze) and discuss the series. But have no interest in meeting the performers - tends to break the magic, and not into dressing up in costume (really not my thing), fan conventions give me a headache and I'm hunting the exit ramp five minutes in. Also, not a singer - so sing-a-longs are really not my thing. And..I hate getting autographs from people. The only autographs I have are either from novelists or
because a friend got one for me. I find it embarrassing. Getting one from a novelist makes sense to me in a way - because you getting them to sign their own book. But tv, film, theater - no.
But discussing a show that I love, reading and or writing fanfic on it - was a lot of fun.
Tend to agree on Defiance...the teasers are rather cheesy and clearly targeted at 12 year old male audience (which apparently is Syfy's market audience at the moment - if the wrestling is any indication).
Also the video game tie-in does not bode well. Revolution is actually more interesting.